I've had some time to think about what I wanted to post; this is a reflective time for me and I want to share some of the journey that I've made. Hello everyone, this is Terrence Ausweiler! Hendra may make a contribution here today as well.

Sara made the point that many incubi are gay. This should really come as no surprise, because over the centuries in western culture, "homosexuaility" just was not allowed. So if you were a flesh-and-blood person as I was in Prussia in the 1780's it did not do to broadcast the fact. Once dead, it becomes apparent that many priests are totally queer and this can be...upsetting, because these same good fathers would periodically rant and thunder from the pulpit about the sins of sodomy, masturbation, fornication and all. The Lutheran ministers were no better. I attended Church because my family forced me to go when I was a child, first as a Lutheran (what else could one be at that place and time), then as a good Catholic boy when my Father converted the whole family (without telling us first; Papa vas der law und don't forgettin it) as a business opportunity. (That was common back then also)(And occasionally dangerous!) To be free of your flesh and blood self and find out that good Father Gottfried enjoyed the kisses of young Hans made up my mind, and the minds of many others, to indulge ourselves with those who could sense us. I think she was a little off the mark in saying we were just out for wambam thank you man neo-rape. The surprising thing was how many men, once over the initial shock that they were not (wet)dreaming, welcomed us as nightly visitors. I had a few men and boys like that, but inevitably guilt over their "sins" would begin to weigh upon them, and out would come the Holy water, the iron bars, the priests and all of that crap. Let me tell you, none of it really works! Most of us see the paraphenalia and just decide to up and go. Those who choose to stay are not in for any emotional or physical love coming from the flesh-and-blood man in question, by this time the poor bugger (;P)

is convinced that he's going to Hell...relax, Ludwig, you're not...all to no avail.

You know, I wonder if writing in HTML or BB code works with this setup. Let me try for italics: How is that? You can't tell with this Python software. And how does this work out? [i] At least on the page I'm writing, I see no change [/i] Perhaps when I publish the page I'll see.

Sorry, got distracted there. I think what I want to say is this: if you are a man attracted to men, get into the spirituality of it, don't lose yourself in the endless bolgia of "gay culture." Visit a site like that of the sensible Todd Perkins if you want to view your sexual self in a meaningful spiritual light, I think he is at

www.tperkins.com

and you can learn so much there. And the umm photos are great! :D

TERRENCE: We were fortunate in some browsing to come across the very sensuous and spiritual website of Todd Perkins, a man of men who has wonderful insights into the joys of male loving, and some really wise advice about it. He's also quite profound spiritually, as well. Although we perused his material for roughly twenty minutes, I wish to go back for more study, and will probably contact him.
ROLAND: I'm very surprised at the depth and amount of material on the Internet which links sexuality and spirituality. In my days in Jerusalem among the Knights of Saint John there was such. Historians please note, Saint John was the "beloved disciple," a thing apparently not lost upon the founders of a present day movement which goes by that name. You know...I was going to write "gay" but I can't bring myself to do it! I'm not "gay" by contemporary standards, and I refuse the label of "sodomite," although I think it is funny sometimes. Don't like "bisexual," it sounds too medical or psychiatrical or something, so guys, what do you say? We must come up with a new word!
TERRENCE: Yeah, I was feeling the same thing when I wrote about "male love." And that Todd Perkins was a "man of men."
ROLAND: I like "male love."
PERRY: It's not bad, but are you wanting something a bit more poetic?
TERRENCE: Yeah, I do, I would.
ROLAND: Exactly.
PERRY: Manheart. It says my heart belongs to a man. It says I desire the heart of a man.
ROLAND: Not to mention a very specific portion of his anatomy!
PERRY: Roland!!! [laughter] I suppose if the girls saw that part they'd be off and running again about how we're talking about our weasels again!
TERRENCE: Look, I like it. It's better than what we've got.
ROLAND: Very well, then shall we stay with that for now?
[ general agreement]
TERRENCE: Good! Shall I close? Terrence out!